Oooh LIfehouse . A little ansty sounding but its a good some eh ;D
Im surprised i can keep these long blogs up. It takes so much energy and so much of my saturday to write them.
I liked Life and Resilience this week. It was a bit like peer support again, except more D&M- deep and meaningful.
One of the things we talked about was acceptance nad predjudice in our society. and then came that word that makes every Christian and Catholic freeze- because they know they're up against a world of misconception and reality and other things of poo: homosexuality.
TABBY AND THE WORLD OF HOMOSEXUALITY
Oh my goodness.
Its a scary topic. WHY? becauase when people talk about it, and then know you are a christian, its time to switch into scary mode for both parties. ._.
THE WORLD: The world has had a dark history concerning Homosexualtiy, and still struggles with acceptance today, but it is much more open than it was in the 1950s when people would bash you up for being Gay. this is a Good thing. It is a very Good thing because we hate violence nad predjudice and Gay-bashing is a sub-human act of pure ignorance and hate. Today, the world embraces those of different sexualities. Horray for Free love! Everywhere! Everyone! FREEEE!!! Though understandably, people still get really awekward when it comes to talkinga botu homosexuality even ifyour not christian or catholic, but it is a politically correct thing to ebrace all people. This is GOOD <- Happy face for humanity and its progress through history. But this does not fare well for the children of God.
THE CHILDREN OF GOD: Our Lord has been so incredibly explicit about this topic that there is absolutly not question about what God thinks of homosexuality. Romans has a big hefty chunk in chpater 1 that says that Homosexuality is a perversion- a degradation of human bodies, and the result of a depraved mind. This depraved mind was given to humans because they didnt want to fear God- they totally went haywire to the way God had wired them, and rejeced him. So God "gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodoes with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator- who is forever praised.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for the unnatural ones. in the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with list for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and recieved in them selves the due penalty for their perversion." 1:24-27
Thats uber freaky man. Especailly how you keep reading what Paul says and he sounds so angry and GRAR at humanity and what they have done to God.
You really can't get more explicit in that, not that its not scary and very polittically incorrect. But that doesnt mean its not right- scarily so. All of us Christians often dodge and tip toe around teh subject, becuase today, you dont get bashed if your homosexual, but if you say something bad about it. Thats Good- again, horray for the progress of humaity and its acceptance. But that still doesnt make it good in God's eyes.
This is black and white. God against the World, the World against God- we are confused because we cant help being citizens of both. we have both points of view. We're torn between the progress of humanity and its kindness, to the root of the problem itself. Is kindness enough to mask the sin from God to make its acceptable?
Ok thats jsut a weird question. here is our situation.
THE CHILD OF GOD'S SITUATION: Homosexualtiy is very much part of our society and we have very strong views about it: Homosexuality is love- love shuld be free, we are all for homosexuality because there is nothing wrong with it- it is just love between too people and can be and pure or dirty as every other relationship between a man and a woman.
If i wasn't a christian, this would be totally cool- there is nothing wrong with loving another human just like a man loves a woman- nothing wrong in the way homosexual show their love- its exactly the same, it just wasnt a social norm in the world's early years, even though homosexuality was everywhere in the world's ancient cities. NOTHING WRONG- ALL FREE, just the ignorance and close minded ness of the forefathers of human history. but we can change that- MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE FOR YOU AND ME! YAY!
But i am a christian. So it is wrong, and has been ever since it has been pracitces. the wrong-ness doesnt come from close mindedness of history people, but from the sin that is as fresh as ever sin that is commited in every one's everyday life. it is SIN- and SIN is the worst, base, curruptedness in the eyes of God. ALL sin is, and Homosexuality is one of them. Therefore, homosexuality cannot be made better with acceptance.
THE CHRISTIAN CONT: Don't get me wrong. The other side of the scale is to believe that homosexuality is the Worst of all sins. I don't know about Catholic, because i am uneducated, but us Prespos dont have a hierachy of sin. All sin is the same. All sin is just as detremental as eachother. A lie is as good as a murder. A murderous though is just as good as the act of murdering. One sin is enough for death. There is no such thing as a SMALL sin. No such thing as a BIG sin- no such thing as a MORE DAMNING sin because ALL sin is Damning.
SIN: Sin is the total opposite to God. God is the epitome of EVERYTHING good- because all Good things, and only good things came from God. "I said to the Lord, withiout you, i have no good thing." <- my one and only memorised verse.
God is also Just. God is the Epitome of just- because justice is Good. It is fair.
God also Hates sin. you can see why, because sin is so contary to God's nature. Sin is the epitome of all things Bad- it is rejection of God. Why is this bad, becuase in the world and all of creation, God is othe only thing that ever matters. Rejection of Him is rejection of Justice and all things Good= all things bad.
God cannot abide with anything Bad; "You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell...you hate all who do wrong. You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and decietful men the Lord abhors." Pslam 5:4-6 Ever heard of God hating something? He only hates Sin. Sin is hereditory in ALl humans. it destroys God's creation.
Thats why God can't just overlook the world of sin- that would be UNJUST. Evil MUST be punished and banished. But he still LOVES humans, becuase God is all things Good. he didnt want to banish everyones, but he had to do something- otherwise he wuld not be the God of justice.
So he sent Jesus- and focussed all the punishment and wrath of sin of the entire universe, past presenta nd future onto this ONE MAN. so only one person would have to take the just punishment of sin.
But this is a tangent.
THE POINT OF ALL OF THAT: We consider the act of homosexuality a sin. All people sin everyday, so being homosexual doesnt mean that that person is any less of a person, is any less loved by God than a hetrosexual. Every human is the same, and no one has the right to condemn a homosexual for their way of life.
WHY WOULD LOVING ANOTHER PERSON BE A SIN?: I don't know- to be totally honest, i have no idea. But that doesn't stop it being black or white.
Therefore i cannot and will not condemn Homosexuality, it is not my place, but i also cannot/will not condone it to be politically correct.
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Point taken and I hear ya. I stand at the same point as you do when it comes to Homosexuality.
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All sin is the same. That is tres interesting to read, granted I don't think I've ever heard that before.
I don't know what to think now ._.
Heyo
Yeah...this is a topic that has quite literally kept me awake- God is love, if gayness is love, why doesnt God like it and yada yada yada.
That all sin the same thing was interesting. As far as I know, and how I've been brought up in my little Catholic society is that some stuff is worse than other. Like, murdering is worse than lieing. We don't believe that all those sins are tallied up and weighed and that. God sees the truth of the person and judges them according to whether they're sorry. Truly sorry. Reconcilliation is a major thing, thats why Catholics Confess to a priest (or are meant to) before every major festival.
Homosexuality...it still confuses me, so I stay out of such conversations. I think it's God's place to judge, not mine. I read somewhere that Catholics see homosexual tendencies as a trial, and the person has to be helped through it to the other side, but it is not condoned. It is wrong. Yes...I dunno.
I know that all my Catholic family are the same- they don't judge gays. I dunno...I suppose we just have to try to be the best person we can be and leave the judging up to God.
Haha, and i SO get what you mean about if you wern't Christian you'd probably be gay-friendly. But yeah...we are Christian, so things are quite different.
Woah tabby! nice really long indepth .. uh i was gonna say speech.. but its not a speech..
Nice to see you sharing your thoughts. quite brave of you really. not everyone is bold enough to say stuff like that.. for fear of getting bashed.. *snaps for tabby*
very indepth and meaningful.. like a sermon.. oh well. i guess it comes from being a ministers daughter ^^
for a long time i refused to call myself a christian because I did not agree with the churchs (i'm catholic) policy on homosexuality. it is ok to be a christian and disagree with the church. the church is so outdated on their policies.
what made me come back to being a semi believer is reading the new testament. you read stories of jesus..he was a kind and loving man. he associated with prostitutes, beggers, and those considered "socially undesirable." therefore you cannot seriously consider homosexuality to be a sin as jesus would accept everyone regardless of whom they are.
although I am heterosexual I have many queer friends and they explain it to me like this, "why would I choose to be gay? so I can have society hate me? to be shun by my family." i dont really buy the whole all sin as the same. i dont think you can compare homosexuality to murder...and am quite insulted by people who do.
i think thats where I split with religion. i think you can be a follower of christ and have your own opinions about god. you dont have to jump on the bandwagon like everyone else.
other than that your blog was interested to read
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